In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) Success Rates, cost, drugs, and procedure:
IVF (in vitro fertilization) should these lives be rescued/adopted?
https://mercy-1-today.weebly.com/in-vitro-fertilization-ivf.html
This whole IVF process is causing confusion about if the life of these children should be rescued. The more I know about it the more I think it is totally ungodly. I would appreciate your thoughts.
Please read to the end and then email me: [email protected] Subject: IVF Rescue???
If you want to know about In Vitro Fertilization, Success Rates, How it is done, Cost, Number of eggs fertilized, Number of Tries/cycles needed, Additional drugs needed, Embryo Transfer Ectopic Pregnancy rate,
keep reading Conclusion and Some scripture verses to consider at the end. 2022Sep13 2024Sep5
Info. From: https://www.thewomb.in/status-of-frozen-embryos-in-in-vitro-fertilization/
Success Rates: 1st try 29.5% (less than 1 out of 3) to after 6 tries 65.3% (2 out of 3) (tw: 6 tries means 5 failed attempts and even then only 2 of 3 will have a life baby birth.),
Cost: Avg. $19k,1st Try, plus $7k each added try/cycle if additional eggs were fertilized and frozen to begin with, (tw: Additional eggs fertilized is where people are seeing a problem of needing to rescue these children.) (tw: 6 tries means $19k+$7k+$7k+$7k+$7k+$7k=$54,000 and 1 of 3 people still do not have a live baby birth, now with $54k gone, and how many babies killed?)
(tw: Because $19k is a lot to pay for each try, and less than 1 of 3 succeed on 1st try, $114k to bring your chance up to 2 out of 3, is a staggering amount to pay and have nothing for it. {$19k x 6 first tries = $114k}, and more than 1 in 50 will have to deal with the added cost and heartache of an Ectopic Pregnancy caused by embryo transfer, meaning more pain, more medical intervention, more risk, and more expense, and no baby.) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Success rate of frozen eggs: 2% to 12%,
(tw: To have even 12% success they must be implanting at least 3 embryos each try. Now what happens if more than one grows it is now necessary to abortion-kill (FETAL REDUCTION) any you do not want?)
Embryo Transfer, Ectopic Pregnancy rate: 2.3%,
In Vitro Fertilization, Success Rates, Cost, Tries-cycles, Embryo Transfer, Ectopic Pregnancy rate, 2022Apr15 .odt
More info. From: https://www.verywellfamily.com/understanding-ivf-treatment-step-by-step-1960200
IVF stands for in vitro fertilization. In vitro means “in the lab” and fertilization refers to conception. Usually, IVF involves taking many eggs (retrieved via a transvaginal ultrasound-guided needle) and placing them in a petri dish with specially washed sperm cells (tw: retrieved via masturbation.)
If all goes well, some of the retrieved eggs will become fertilized by the sperm cells and become embryos. One or two of those healthy embryos will be transferred to your uterus. (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
In some cases, the sperm cells need extra help with the fertilization process.
ICSI, or intracytoplasmic sperm injection, may be used, which is an assisted reproductive technology that involves injecting a single sperm cell into an egg.
This may be done in cases of severe male infertility, previously cryopreserved eggs, preimplantation genetic testing of embryos (PGT), or if past IVF cycles have failed at the fertilization stage.2
But before eggs can be retrieved, the ovaries must be stimulated. Without the help of fertility drugs, your body will typically only mature one (or maybe two) eggs each month. For conventional IVF, you need lots of eggs. Injectable fertility drugs are used to stimulate the ovaries to mature a dozen or more eggs for retrieval. (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
IVF Success Rates IVF is pretty successful. According to a study of approximately 156,000 women, the average live-birth rate for the first cycle was 29.5%. (almost 1 of 3) This is comparable to the success rates for a natural cycle in couples with healthy fertility (tw: It might be comparable to natural cycles per a try, but with natural cycles it does not cost $19000 - $7000 each try and a couple can try each month, that is 24 times in 2 years)
Your best odds for success may come from repeated treatment cycles. This same study found that after six IVF cycles/tries, the cumulative live-birth rate was 65.3%. (almost 2 of 3) These six cycles usually took place over 2 years. (tw: Even after 6 tries and $54,000 to $114,000 spent, it still means 1 of 3 women do not have a child to show for all that time and expense.) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Age does play an important role in your success, as does the reason for your infertility. Using an egg donor will also affect your success.
How Much Does IVF Really Cost?
By Rachel Gurevich, RN Updated on November 27, 2021
info. From: https://www.verywellfamily.com/how-much-does-ivf-cost-1960212
The average cost for one in vitro fertilization (IVF) cycle is more than $12,000. Basic IVF can be as much as $15,000 or may be as low as $10,000. It's rarely lower than that. These numbers do not include the other cost and of medications, for each cycle.
One study asked couples at a fertility clinic to track all their out-of-pocket expenses over a period of 18 months. This included what they paid for the VF itself, as well as medications and monitoring.
The average couple spent $19,234. And for every additional cycle, couples spent on average an additional $6,955. So, according to this study, if a couple went through three (3) cycles, that added up to a little over $33,000 in out-of-pocket expenses. (if they went with frozen eggs from the first try) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
According to the research, 2% to 12% of frozen eggs will result in a live birth.
This is not the same as the live birth rate per total number of eggs banked, which is higher. What are the chances that your frozen eggs will lead to one baby?
One study found that women who froze 8 or more eggs before age 35 had a 40.8% (2 out of 5) chance of live birth resulting from those eggs (over many embryo transfer attempts). In this same study, women over the age of 35 who froze eight eggs had a 19.9% (1 out of 5) chance of live birth. (tw: Sounds expensive with a very low chance of live birth baby.)
This is why it’s best to freeze several eggs. The general recommendation is that 8 to 15 eggs be frozen for women age 35 or younger. For women over 35 years old, the decision of how many eggs to freeze needs to be determined on an individual basis. (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
You may need to go through a few cycles to get a good amount to bank. (tw: This is just talking about the number of times you have eggs being collected, each time taking additional fertility drugs.) How many cycles you’ll need depends on how your body reacts to the fertility drugs, your age at the time of freezing, your ovarian reserves, and the skill of your physician. (tw: More cycles mean increased costs.) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
First time egg donors are generously compensated $7,000 for your time and efforts.
$750 for sperm. (retrieved via masturbation.) (tw: Any IVF rescue is another man's sperm and another woman's egg, may not even be husband and wife. Is it adulterous to have your wife take another's seed into her body? Would it be godly to have another man masturbate and then inject that sperm into your wife? Would it be ok because he did not actually have sex with your wife?) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Embryo Transfer, Ectopic Pregnancy rate?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33867634/
Of the 802 women who underwent Embryo Transfers, 19 women had an ectopic implantation with an overall incidence of 2.3%. Among the 19 EPs, there were eight EPs (2.23%) in the fresh transfer group and 11 EPs (2.48%) in the frozen transfer group, but the difference was not statistically significant (P > 0.05). The clinico-therapeutic profile of the patients was comparable in both the groups. (tw: more than 1 out of 50 become an Ectopic Pregnancy meaning more pain, more medical intervention, more risk, and more expense, and no baby. And if that fallopian tube has to be cut out to save the life of the mother that may end all chance of having any children.) (tw: the average non-IVF rate of EP is 1 out of 100 pregnancies (1%) which is ½ as many as IVF) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectopic_pregnancy
The rate of ectopic pregnancy … may be as high as 4% (1 out of 25) among those using assisted reproductive technology (IVF). (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Scriptures where children are not rescued
1. Hosea 4:6… seeing you have forgotten the law of God. I will also forget your children. (children are not rescued)
2. God saved only 4 righteous, Gen 19:1-29 Surely there must have been children and babies in those cities.
3. Daniel's false accusers' children got the punishment that the fathers got. Dan 6:24 (children are not rescued)
4. Moses and/or God made no attempt to save the lives of Korah's, Dathan's, and Abiram's children as the earth opened up and they all perished together with their parents. Num 16:26-33 (children are not rescued)
5. Ezek 9:6 Slay utterly the old man, the young man and the virgin, and little children and women; ... 10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
6. Hos 2:4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.
7. Numbers 14:18 The LORD ... by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
8. This teaching of Jesus: The man owed ten thousand talents commanded him to be sold, ... and his children Matt 18:24
Conclusion:
in vitro fertilization. Taking another's seed into your body, is this not the very essence of adultery? Are Christians and others having extra children created (extra eggs fertilized), because of cost, and then not taking care of those children and leaving them to be killed or sold? And having multiple fertilized eggs implanted so they can then kill/abortion-murder any they see as not wanted, all to save extra expense $$$? And then again anyone who thinks they want to rescue one, do they now pick the weakest one? (Because we are rescuing the helpless orphan) OR do we choose a most wanted one? Is it important to know the health and genetics of the "parents"? The more I think about it the more I am thinking it is all about not trusting God for him to give children, and using this as a convenient bypass to pick out your own children, under the pretense or misguided understanding of rescuing a child. And by such involvement we pay to keep these ungodly institutions in operation.
Can we be more compassionate or more righteous than God?
IVF Is It Ever OK? Dave Brennan, https://player.fm/series/into-the-pray/ivf-is-it-ever-ok-feat-dave-brennan
SCREENING to pick which children will be FETAL REDUCTION/ DISCARDED (killed) which then kills additional children which were implanted in a woman's womb but now are not wanted.
IVF is NOT OK (Testimony w/ Mairi Franks) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1_ZyW7bPN8
https://whatismarriagetonywpiano.weebly.com/let-not.html What does it mean?
https://whatismarriagetonywpiano.weebly.com/what-moses-said-about-divorce-not-commonly-taught.html
https://mercy-1-today.weebly.com/in-vitro-fertilization-ivf.html
This whole IVF process is causing confusion about if the life of these children should be rescued. The more I know about it the more I think it is totally ungodly. I would appreciate your thoughts.
Please read to the end and then email me: [email protected] Subject: IVF Rescue???
If you want to know about In Vitro Fertilization, Success Rates, How it is done, Cost, Number of eggs fertilized, Number of Tries/cycles needed, Additional drugs needed, Embryo Transfer Ectopic Pregnancy rate,
keep reading Conclusion and Some scripture verses to consider at the end. 2022Sep13 2024Sep5
Info. From: https://www.thewomb.in/status-of-frozen-embryos-in-in-vitro-fertilization/
Success Rates: 1st try 29.5% (less than 1 out of 3) to after 6 tries 65.3% (2 out of 3) (tw: 6 tries means 5 failed attempts and even then only 2 of 3 will have a life baby birth.),
Cost: Avg. $19k,1st Try, plus $7k each added try/cycle if additional eggs were fertilized and frozen to begin with, (tw: Additional eggs fertilized is where people are seeing a problem of needing to rescue these children.) (tw: 6 tries means $19k+$7k+$7k+$7k+$7k+$7k=$54,000 and 1 of 3 people still do not have a live baby birth, now with $54k gone, and how many babies killed?)
(tw: Because $19k is a lot to pay for each try, and less than 1 of 3 succeed on 1st try, $114k to bring your chance up to 2 out of 3, is a staggering amount to pay and have nothing for it. {$19k x 6 first tries = $114k}, and more than 1 in 50 will have to deal with the added cost and heartache of an Ectopic Pregnancy caused by embryo transfer, meaning more pain, more medical intervention, more risk, and more expense, and no baby.) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Success rate of frozen eggs: 2% to 12%,
(tw: To have even 12% success they must be implanting at least 3 embryos each try. Now what happens if more than one grows it is now necessary to abortion-kill (FETAL REDUCTION) any you do not want?)
Embryo Transfer, Ectopic Pregnancy rate: 2.3%,
In Vitro Fertilization, Success Rates, Cost, Tries-cycles, Embryo Transfer, Ectopic Pregnancy rate, 2022Apr15 .odt
More info. From: https://www.verywellfamily.com/understanding-ivf-treatment-step-by-step-1960200
IVF stands for in vitro fertilization. In vitro means “in the lab” and fertilization refers to conception. Usually, IVF involves taking many eggs (retrieved via a transvaginal ultrasound-guided needle) and placing them in a petri dish with specially washed sperm cells (tw: retrieved via masturbation.)
If all goes well, some of the retrieved eggs will become fertilized by the sperm cells and become embryos. One or two of those healthy embryos will be transferred to your uterus. (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
In some cases, the sperm cells need extra help with the fertilization process.
ICSI, or intracytoplasmic sperm injection, may be used, which is an assisted reproductive technology that involves injecting a single sperm cell into an egg.
This may be done in cases of severe male infertility, previously cryopreserved eggs, preimplantation genetic testing of embryos (PGT), or if past IVF cycles have failed at the fertilization stage.2
But before eggs can be retrieved, the ovaries must be stimulated. Without the help of fertility drugs, your body will typically only mature one (or maybe two) eggs each month. For conventional IVF, you need lots of eggs. Injectable fertility drugs are used to stimulate the ovaries to mature a dozen or more eggs for retrieval. (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
IVF Success Rates IVF is pretty successful. According to a study of approximately 156,000 women, the average live-birth rate for the first cycle was 29.5%. (almost 1 of 3) This is comparable to the success rates for a natural cycle in couples with healthy fertility (tw: It might be comparable to natural cycles per a try, but with natural cycles it does not cost $19000 - $7000 each try and a couple can try each month, that is 24 times in 2 years)
Your best odds for success may come from repeated treatment cycles. This same study found that after six IVF cycles/tries, the cumulative live-birth rate was 65.3%. (almost 2 of 3) These six cycles usually took place over 2 years. (tw: Even after 6 tries and $54,000 to $114,000 spent, it still means 1 of 3 women do not have a child to show for all that time and expense.) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Age does play an important role in your success, as does the reason for your infertility. Using an egg donor will also affect your success.
How Much Does IVF Really Cost?
By Rachel Gurevich, RN Updated on November 27, 2021
info. From: https://www.verywellfamily.com/how-much-does-ivf-cost-1960212
The average cost for one in vitro fertilization (IVF) cycle is more than $12,000. Basic IVF can be as much as $15,000 or may be as low as $10,000. It's rarely lower than that. These numbers do not include the other cost and of medications, for each cycle.
One study asked couples at a fertility clinic to track all their out-of-pocket expenses over a period of 18 months. This included what they paid for the VF itself, as well as medications and monitoring.
The average couple spent $19,234. And for every additional cycle, couples spent on average an additional $6,955. So, according to this study, if a couple went through three (3) cycles, that added up to a little over $33,000 in out-of-pocket expenses. (if they went with frozen eggs from the first try) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
According to the research, 2% to 12% of frozen eggs will result in a live birth.
This is not the same as the live birth rate per total number of eggs banked, which is higher. What are the chances that your frozen eggs will lead to one baby?
One study found that women who froze 8 or more eggs before age 35 had a 40.8% (2 out of 5) chance of live birth resulting from those eggs (over many embryo transfer attempts). In this same study, women over the age of 35 who froze eight eggs had a 19.9% (1 out of 5) chance of live birth. (tw: Sounds expensive with a very low chance of live birth baby.)
This is why it’s best to freeze several eggs. The general recommendation is that 8 to 15 eggs be frozen for women age 35 or younger. For women over 35 years old, the decision of how many eggs to freeze needs to be determined on an individual basis. (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
You may need to go through a few cycles to get a good amount to bank. (tw: This is just talking about the number of times you have eggs being collected, each time taking additional fertility drugs.) How many cycles you’ll need depends on how your body reacts to the fertility drugs, your age at the time of freezing, your ovarian reserves, and the skill of your physician. (tw: More cycles mean increased costs.) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
First time egg donors are generously compensated $7,000 for your time and efforts.
$750 for sperm. (retrieved via masturbation.) (tw: Any IVF rescue is another man's sperm and another woman's egg, may not even be husband and wife. Is it adulterous to have your wife take another's seed into her body? Would it be godly to have another man masturbate and then inject that sperm into your wife? Would it be ok because he did not actually have sex with your wife?) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Embryo Transfer, Ectopic Pregnancy rate?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33867634/
Of the 802 women who underwent Embryo Transfers, 19 women had an ectopic implantation with an overall incidence of 2.3%. Among the 19 EPs, there were eight EPs (2.23%) in the fresh transfer group and 11 EPs (2.48%) in the frozen transfer group, but the difference was not statistically significant (P > 0.05). The clinico-therapeutic profile of the patients was comparable in both the groups. (tw: more than 1 out of 50 become an Ectopic Pregnancy meaning more pain, more medical intervention, more risk, and more expense, and no baby. And if that fallopian tube has to be cut out to save the life of the mother that may end all chance of having any children.) (tw: the average non-IVF rate of EP is 1 out of 100 pregnancies (1%) which is ½ as many as IVF) (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectopic_pregnancy
The rate of ectopic pregnancy … may be as high as 4% (1 out of 25) among those using assisted reproductive technology (IVF). (tw: Are we willing to wait and just Trust God?)
Scriptures where children are not rescued
1. Hosea 4:6… seeing you have forgotten the law of God. I will also forget your children. (children are not rescued)
2. God saved only 4 righteous, Gen 19:1-29 Surely there must have been children and babies in those cities.
3. Daniel's false accusers' children got the punishment that the fathers got. Dan 6:24 (children are not rescued)
4. Moses and/or God made no attempt to save the lives of Korah's, Dathan's, and Abiram's children as the earth opened up and they all perished together with their parents. Num 16:26-33 (children are not rescued)
5. Ezek 9:6 Slay utterly the old man, the young man and the virgin, and little children and women; ... 10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
6. Hos 2:4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.
7. Numbers 14:18 The LORD ... by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
8. This teaching of Jesus: The man owed ten thousand talents commanded him to be sold, ... and his children Matt 18:24
Conclusion:
in vitro fertilization. Taking another's seed into your body, is this not the very essence of adultery? Are Christians and others having extra children created (extra eggs fertilized), because of cost, and then not taking care of those children and leaving them to be killed or sold? And having multiple fertilized eggs implanted so they can then kill/abortion-murder any they see as not wanted, all to save extra expense $$$? And then again anyone who thinks they want to rescue one, do they now pick the weakest one? (Because we are rescuing the helpless orphan) OR do we choose a most wanted one? Is it important to know the health and genetics of the "parents"? The more I think about it the more I am thinking it is all about not trusting God for him to give children, and using this as a convenient bypass to pick out your own children, under the pretense or misguided understanding of rescuing a child. And by such involvement we pay to keep these ungodly institutions in operation.
Can we be more compassionate or more righteous than God?
IVF Is It Ever OK? Dave Brennan, https://player.fm/series/into-the-pray/ivf-is-it-ever-ok-feat-dave-brennan
SCREENING to pick which children will be FETAL REDUCTION/ DISCARDED (killed) which then kills additional children which were implanted in a woman's womb but now are not wanted.
IVF is NOT OK (Testimony w/ Mairi Franks) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1_ZyW7bPN8
https://whatismarriagetonywpiano.weebly.com/let-not.html What does it mean?
https://whatismarriagetonywpiano.weebly.com/what-moses-said-about-divorce-not-commonly-taught.html
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